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martinrunner on 08/18/2005 at 13:37 PST
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Last Reader Comment on 05/05/2011 at 14:51 PST
Recently joined your site as I am searching for a Cabernet I tasted recently called Creighton.
It was excellent, but I can't find it anywhere.
Does anyone have any knowledge of this wine?
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I have also tried this at a recent gathering of friends. A friend brought the bottle and it supposedly came from a wine broker in Southern California (San Diego?) I believe. It was labeled as a Washington State wine (Walla Walla) and was pretty good as I remember.
Here is the funny part. This gathering is always one of those who can bing the best wines kind of thing. My friend was coming from California (to Oregon) for this party and said one of the wines he was bringing was from a Washington Winery called "Creighton". I researched every thing I could think of trying to find out about this winery, including calling the Walla Walla Vintners Association, all to no avail.
I just went back online and nobody is carrying this wine that I can find. This includes, Zachy's Avalon, and all of the wine search sites I know of.
If you would like to email outside of this comment area I will contact my friend and see who his broker is. It may be that this guy has exclusive distribution rights. Let me know.
Tim Sinniger
[email protected]
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Deborah Gray 10/27/2005 at 16:06 PST [Reply]
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I also tried the 2001 Creighton Cabernet thru the wine broker Gerhardt Wines, based in San Diego. You can find them on-line at gerhardtwines.com.
This wine is UTTERLY FABULOUS. I was told to decant it for 45 min, and why? It's one of the biggest wines ever right from the start.
However, the last time I contacted my "wine goddess", I guess I ended up with their last case of the 2001 Creighton Cab. If anyone can find Creighton, I'd sure like another case. With this wine, you would be selfish too!
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Todd Hymel 01/25/2006 at 14:15 PST [Reply]
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I have 3 bottles of the Creighton I'm willing to sell. Todd My email is [email protected]
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Your email address bounced back to me for some reason.
I am interested in pursuing this.
Feel free to email me at:
[email protected]
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Your Creighton Wine could be from Creighton Farms located at 38 Dumfries Floriat Road W.A. W.A. is not for Washington but for Western Australia at this particular time.
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Saw the bottle and it is not the Australian wine. I had found this online and anticipated an Australian wine, but it is really from Washington.
Sorry about the email address. It is actually [email protected]. I am attempting to set up a new web site by this name.
Tim
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Ralph Costanzo 11/22/2005 at 14:38 PST [Reply]
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I just purchased a case of 2002 Creighton Cabernet from a friend of mine who is a wine broker in San Francisco. It just showed up in my office today. I too couldn't find any information on the net. I will call my broker friend and see what he knows. I haven't tried it yet but will be glad to review in a day or two.
Oh, the label says "Vinted and Botteled by Creighton, Pasco Washington.
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martinrunner 11/22/2005 at 14:41 PST [Reply]
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I received a call from Jakob Gerhardt, a European Wine Company with mulitple offices in US. They distribute the wine with an agreement from a winery in the Columbia Valley in Washington State.
I ordered the wine yesterday.
Thanks for following-up
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Wesley Billstone 12/08/2005 at 09:52 PST [Reply]
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I was solicitated by Gerdhart last week, and bought 6 bottles of the Creighton's, waiting to pop a cork. I also bought 1/2 case ofJennifer's Cossing Shiraz from S.E Australia, but can't find any information on this one.
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Okay... so I too have succumbed to the lure of Creighton and my case of 2002 is arriving this Friday -- also via Henry at Gerhardt's..
Care to weigh-in on how the '02 fared?
Deborah
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lanya 12/09/2005 at 18:10 PST [Reply]
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How much did you pay for the 2002 Cretghton
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Nicole 12/09/2005 at 18:53 PST [Reply]
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I just bought 6 bottles of the 2002 Creighton and it is delicious. I think it will get better with age, but I'm trying to find out how long I should age it for. Does anyone know where I can find this out? I paid $35/bottle.
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broker 01/14/2006 at 08:33 PST [Reply]
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it will lie down for 15 years
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Awaiting delivery today. I bought one case of Creighton and I believe the price was roughly same at $35/bottle or about $420.00
I'll share my thoughts after delivery.. I also bought 1/2 case of Cotes du Rhone rouge.. more later..deborah
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Bruce Hagen 12/12/2005 at 07:16 PST [Reply]
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I drank my first bottle of Creighton Saturday night. A big, big wine that definitely benefits from a decanting well in advance of consuming.
It was unlike any other Cabernet I have had in the past.
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Paul Skalsky 01/06/2006 at 16:51 PST [Reply]
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I just bought a case from a broker with Montesquieu Wines. If you need a contact I work with Heidi Elliott, 714-258-8654
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shannon 01/07/2006 at 06:04 PST [Reply]
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I am a wine broker with Montesquieu, and if anyone would like to purchase the o2 Creighton or find out more about us you can reach me at 800-694-9463.
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Meghan 01/15/2006 at 09:47 PST [Reply]
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Hello. I am a mysterious wine broker working out of Orange County that you all have been alluding too. Let me explain how we work so that you can understand why you are not finding Creighton....
I work for Montesquieu, formerly Jakob Gerhardt. Over Christmastime we bought a Chateau in France, hence the new name. The family of Montesquieu is credited with writing the Spirit of Laws (a book our constitution is based on), and naming the Cabenet Sauvignon grape.
The reason that you cannot find Creighton anywhere is that when our tasters find something that they love, we buy the entire vintage so we have exclusive rights to it. We are the only way that you are going to find Creighton, among other things.
Take some time, review our website, and give me a call! Meghan Brown
714-258-8654. www.montesquieu.com
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Bobby 03/05/2006 at 08:17 PST [Reply]
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You people have been scammed by the best. I can't believe the wine geeks on this blog. Listen to yourselves please. Creighton is not an actual winery, but a private label brand. Voila.
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I am interested in anyone who has had any experience with Montesquieu. I have purchased wine from these people and I want to find out as much as possible about what they are doing. If in fact they have scammed me, I would like to know, and also what I can do to report them to the authorities if need be. Please help me.
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They deleted my last post. I was saying that if anyone has any information about Montesquieu I would like to know because I believe I have been scammed and I am upset that they keep deleting my posts to try to prevent you all from responding.
Heathcliff.
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It is in fact a scam. There is no such vineyard in Washington state by that name. They are a private label and the wine inside could've come from anywhere.
Do not purchase wine from Montesquieu. You could find a wine at your local wine shop for far cheaper than they sell it for and you can also find much more information regarding the wine. If this was a legitimate wine and company, you wouldn't be on this posting trying to find out information about it... It would be as easy as a Google or two. Right?
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Thank you. I appreciate your posts. I have been through so much with Montesquieu and everything you said makes sense.
Heathcliff.
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To bad I never found these posts 2 years ago. That was the time I started serching for information on Montesquieu. I could only find their home page and it did not give any info other than generic. I wanted to compare prices, as some of the wines were very good and others were mediocre; quality did not correlate to price, moderatly priced were good and more expensive were sometimes not any better. I quit buying from them in '07 as my cellar was getting quite full, about 600 bottles, and presently only add as some are consumed. With further research it appears the Montesquieu wines are priced at least twice more than comparable wines from other sources. I allowed my self to be sold over priced wines for too long and learned my lesson. From now on I am only buying wines from established sales out lets that have information about the wines and wineries. I buy mixed cases of 90 pt reds to see which are the ones I want to purchase later. I hope this some what out of date post will be of help to others.
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OK, I have been in the wine biz for 6 years, trained here in NYC and UC Davis. I took a job at Montesquieu and was invariably disappointed with the products and sales methods; being that The wines are sold via 'cold call' in a carnival barker style. The training to work at Montesquieu is decidely NOT wine focused training. Instead, you are told to read the 'Secret', create a 'vision board of wealth' and sell based on targeting customers who exhibit an impulse buy mentality. The wines are not legit, they are created by purchased juice and unused lots and they put a large ticket price on the bottle. Once again, these are not small production-boutique wines from small family owned vineyards, but left over second-or more likely third label wines, with shiny labels trying to appeal to the nouveau riche. I resigned, as I am a wine pro, who cannot, in good conscious, sell a product that is fraudulent. Oh, one more thing. I was relatively successful, I made a sale a day,( you can expect to make a sale per 300 phone calls...and that's an amazing average as you are calling business people at their jobs and spend a majority of your time being hung up on by savvy ad-mins) but my wine sales were not because I was a trained wine pro, it was because I am very charismatic. I noticed that the second best so-called broker was a drug addict and knew nothing about wine at all....you are expected to drink all day, starting at 8:30am and for someone who loves fantastic wines, I had a hard time choking down a few of these subpar wines. The office managers were nice, if not disillusioned and they were not trained in wine at all, the office in New York is nice as well, but to reiterate, the wines are subpar and not sold by wine professionals. At the time of my departure, there were only 2 remaining 'brokers', one was the aforementioned drug addict....actually doing cocaine on the job, and another woman who knew her stuff and had vast food and wine experience but she popped Vicodin on a reguclar basis as she had a back injury from a car accident . The last I heard she ( the vicodin addict, not the coke-head) jumped ship based on the inethical products and sales methods. To sum up, this is a job for a person who is hard up as they pay you $500.00 a week for 6 months, you need not have any wine knowledge, and you don't have to pass a drug test, dress nicely or even have a professional demeanor.....If you are opportunistic and able to bullshit on the phone you will do ok.....Expect to make no more than 20,000.00 yearly. After 6 months, you work 100 percent on commission. Soooo, you do the math. You only sell by the case. The average weekly sale is less than $3,000.00. So, there you go, if you have no other recourse, take a job at Montesquieu, but keep interviewing in the meantime.
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